Latest Episode: WNC’s Rebrand, Hurricane Helene, Cannabis Legality, and Starting a Business with Mike & Meghan | Season 5, Episode 5
Guests: Mike and Meghan, Co-owners of WNC (formerly WNC CBD)
Episode Highlights:
Rebrand Announcement: WNC is dropping "CBD" from their name to become simply "WNC," which will now stand for "World Needs Cannabis." They are also introducing a new logo, font, and packaging pattern.
Company Origins: Mike got into cannabis at age 11. The couple started WNC in 2019. Mike took an "Intro to Business" class at Central Piedmont Community College and had no formal business background; he learned by "Googling how to start a business in North Carolina."
Financing & Start-up: Mike took out a $10,000 personal loan to buy and resell CBD flower. For the first nine months, the business struggled, and Mike actually mailed in dissolution papers for the LLC, but the next day he called to keep it open
Mike's Past: Mike has a two-year associate's degree in automotive system technology and used to compete in the Pro-Am series of drifting, spending about $1,000 a weekend on tires.
Challenges & Setbacks: Meghan initially had internal doubts about being able to support them on her income alone, calling her husband a "drug dealer... a legal drug dealer." The business has faced issues with credit card processors and websites due to being a "high-risk" cannabis company. Shopify removed all their products with over 0.3% total THC overnight, forcing them to quickly build a new retail website on a different platform in two weeks.
The Big Break: The company's growth took off in the fall of 2022 with the introduction of high-THC, federally compliant hemp flower like 'Banana Mac' and 'Bordeaux,' which would sell out online in minutes. Their legal compliance was confirmed by attorney Rod Kight, who provided an eight-page opinion letter.
Team and Culture: WNC has 24 employees (with a 25th starting soon) , and they offer health benefits. Their employee culture is highly rated, with the team reporting 100% happiness in anonymous monthly surveys five months in a row
Hurricane Helene Relief: Hurricane Helene hit Western North Carolina (WNC) hard, bringing six months' worth of rain in 24 hours, causing "thousand-year flood" damage and hundreds of mudslides. Mike and Meghan were key in relief efforts, driving their van back and forth between Charlotte and Asheville to deliver aid, including water, gas, and medicine to neighbors and employees.
'Carolina Comeback' Strain: They launched the 'Carolina Comeback' strain as a fundraiser, with customers choosing the name. In 2024, they raised $18,000 for the Community Housing Coalition of Madison County, and 2025 proceeds are dedicated to Swannanoa.
Mission & Advocacy: They partner with several non-profits, including The Last Prisoner Project, to which they donate a portion of their 4/20 sales and proceeds from their "no one should be in prison for weed" t-shirt. They are also partnered with Building Bridges, Food Connections, and Blue Ridge Pride.
Marriage & Business: As a married couple running a high-pressure business, they use couples counseling and try to set boundaries, joking that WNC is "the other woman in our marriage."
Advice: Mike advises new entrepreneurs to "brace themselves," network, and "Don't give up. Keep trying." Mike's life advice: "Slow down, enjoy the little things... smell the roses." Meghan's favorite phrase: "There's a little bit of good in the worst of us, a little bit of bad in the best of us, but a little bit of both in the most of us."
Legacy: They want WNC to be a role model for other cannabis brands, known for quality, service, and using their platform for community involvement and advocacy
0:00 | Intro: Listener Support, Doubters, and Sponsors |
0:28 | Big Announcement: WNC Rebranding |
1:05 | WNC Origin Story: Cannabis Introduction |
1:33 | Turning Passion into Business: Starting WNC |
2:10 | Mike's Background: Automotive & Drifting |
3:00 | Starting the Business: Loans, LLC, and First Products |
4:10 | Scaling Up: From Wholesale to Online Retail |
4:58 | Meghan's Role: Supporting the Business and Career |
5:48 | Business Challenges: Doubts and Being a "High-Risk" Industry |
6:28 | Setbacks: Losing Platforms and Building a New Website in Two Weeks |
7:15 | WNC Team and Employee Culture |
8:15 | Doubts and Starting Sooner |
8:58 | Cannabis Legality & Regulation: North Carolina and Nationwide |
10:02 | Advocacy and Community: The Last Prisoner Project |
11:27 | Hurricane Helene: Western North Carolina Disaster and Relief Efforts |
14:15 | The Carolina Comeback Strain Fundraiser |
15:44 | Post-Hurricane Challenges: Infrastructure and Wildfire |
16:47 | Living in North Carolina: The Appeal of Appalachia |
18:25 | Mike's Racing Ticket |
18:56 | What Sets WNC Apart: Quality and Community Involvement |
20:25 | The Moment WNC Scaled: THC Flower and Compliant Products |
22:50 | The Spraying Problem and Product Sourcing |
24:00 | Scaling Limitations |
24:35 | Smoky Mountain Hemp Co. and Glass Gallery |
26:10 | Collecting Glass Art and Collabs |
27:32 | Running a Business as a Married Couple |
29:34 | Biggest Milestones and Advice for Entrepreneurs |
31:30 | WNC's Legacy |
32:00 | Best Advice Received and Advice to Younger Selves |
34:10 | Closing Thoughts and Shout Outs |
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Also in this episode:
- David's personal journey, from being a homeless high school dropout and convicted felon to a celebrated artist and actor.
- His introduction to the world of glassblowing and the early days of the craft in Eugene, Oregon, with pioneers like Bob Snodgrass and Eric Crunk.
- How David's dedication to his craft, including taking extensive notes while apprenticing, set him apart from others.
- The unexpected way glassblowing funded his journey through motorcycle school and other adventures.
- His career on the hit TV shows -Sons of Anarchy and Mayans M.C. and the impact of being recognized worldwide.
- His experiences with healing from great loss.
- Sponsor Spotlight: Puffco and WNC CBD.
- His philosophy on meditation, lucid dreaming, and the importance of a clean lifestyle to maintain one's "power".
- The concept of surfers as "the highest elevated people on this planet".
- The importance of creating art and culture, and building a legacy of integrity.
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Matt Robertson is a visionary artist who has made a significant mark in the glass art world with his unique matte-finished caricature sculptures, each reflecting pivotal moments from his life. His playful spirit shines through in his whimsical glass animal sculptures, often depicted in humorous scenarios that embody his vibrant personality. Inspired by creatures like giraffes, Robertson is captivated by the challenges of working with glass, a delicate medium that demands intense focus and energy, which he channels into his art. Each piece captures a dynamic energy, freezing it in time and offering a glimpse into his imaginative universe. After discovering his passion for glassblowing at Sheridan College in Ontario, he honed his craft in Eugene, Oregon, before returning to Canada to co-founded the Edy Roy Glass Gallery, a pioneering space that merges high art with functional glass pipes. Now based in Evergreen, Colorado, Robertson continues to evolve as a glass artist while hosting "The Robertson Stash" podcast and showcasing his work in galleries worldwide, all while advocating for contemporary glass art and its vibrant possibilities.
